En Brera!Yetzer Tov vs. Yetzer Hara!
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Friday, September 11, 2009

 


I spent some time in the mountains last weekend. Natural environments are interesting, but I am never very comfortable in my own skin out in the great lonely. I have many, MANY friends that talk about how close to God they feel when they are out in nature. I had occasion to think on this idea that a person can feel closer to God when they are alone in nature, then when they are surrounded by people, responsibilities, noise pollution, and deadlines.

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My belief system, and faith, has taught me(and shown me experientially) that God is a trinity. He is one essence, but three distinct persons. He is manifest as God the Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit simultaneously in perichoresis (interpenetration). The Father relates to the Son through the Spirit and the Son relates to the Father through the Spirit and the Spirit relates to each of the other two as the empowerment and activity of God Almighty. I sat alone about 1/2 mile away from my wife and little niece and thought of this 'dance of the Godhead' that takes place even when God is completely alone. For, God the Father is never alone in the sense that he is without the Son and the Spirit. They are interrelating and interpenetrating with one another in eternal fellowship. The Son is not independent of the Father. The Spirit is not independent of Father or the Son. They are not even interdependent as we understand it; like the bacteria in our intestines are dependent upon our intestines to survive, and the intestines do not do their work without the bacteria operating on the digested food: this is not what the Trinity is like. The Trinity is not like that because there is no dependence.... there is only the Three in One: being. Existing. Self-existing. interpenetrating one with the other in a dance of relationship on a scale about which our minds can only dimly imagine.
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Anyway, I'm out in the nature that people claim to be so close to God while in it, and I am alone. I recognize that Jesus went off alone to commune with God, and we as Christ followers often say that since Jesus went off to be alone with God the Father, then we should go off as well in order to be closer to God. I wonder if that really holds true. Bearing in mind that God is eternally in relationship, would it not make more sense that to be as close to the Triune God as a person could be a state of relationship would be crucial? Further, since we are not created to be interpenetrative beings that relate to ourselves eternally as self-existing, perichoretic deity, would it also not make sense that the relationship that brings us closest to God necessarily needs to be a relationship with other created beings; namely other people?

I sat 1/2 mile away from others and thought about God and about relationship. As I was alone in nature, I took the time to ask him for help in getting closer to Him through my interrelationships to the objects of his most affectionate and passionate work; namely people.

Being alone does inspire a feeling. A feeling of liberty overtakes a person when they are away from others. A feeling of being free of the responsibility that God has placed on a man or woman to relate, and to relate well, to all of those people that one comes across in the course of the day. Perhaps that feeling people get in nature when they are alone is not actually closeness to God, but temporary freedom from the burden of others that God asks us to bear in his word.

"Lord, help me to come down off the mountain. I am not closer to you up here. It's down there in the valley that I meet you in relationship to others. Allow me this time on the hilltop to appreciate your creation, and to recharge my tired, introverted and fallen nature. Thank you for relationships; especially when they are the means by which I find myself closest to You, Lord God Almighty."


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While your thought is rather complex, I do not think there is a lack of clarity...unless the definitions you provide for those technical terms are not clear, which is not my opinion. But that opinion, as you know, is coming from another person who uses those technical terms.

I think it's a good thing to think about. One of the core realities is that humanity was created to be in relationship. I tend to think, and you probably agree, that humanity is paradoxically created to be both relational and solitary. And even then, when we are "alone", we are never truly alone since He is everywhere (e.g., "If I go to the highest mountain..."). "Alone" times, therefore, are more intended for our time of relating solely to Him rather than to be in a vacuum, or utter seclusion.

Those are my thoughts at 5:30am, anyway.
Posted 9/12/2009 5:37 AM by prov1seven - reply

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I think my point is that "alone" time is not the best way of relating solely to Him. That, since He is in constant relationship, perhaps our most connected and relatable "God moments" are when we are in direct contact humanity (however draining and burdensome that can be). It's just a thought.
Posted 9/12/2009 5:42 AM by Shmuel_Hacohen - reply

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Yeah, I followed that. I was more expressing my thoughts on the topic of relating to God better alone or in community. See, I'M the one who's not being clear. :)
Posted 9/12/2009 5:46 AM by prov1seven - reply

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So, you are disagreeing with my premise entirely? That's acceptable, since it flies in the face of convention, monasticism, prayer closets, and day hikers everywhere, and possibly Scripture (but I don't know for sure that any Scripture backs up the 'getting alone to be closer to God' scenario).
Posted 9/12/2009 5:51 AM by Shmuel_Hacohen - reply

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I don't know about the "getting closer" part, but it is true that Jesus spent alone time - as you mentioned above - with God, and that most (I'm pretty sure it's "all", but can't remember) of the recorded instances were in secluded, undeveloped (i.e., no buildings or people) places.

I don't entirely disagree with your premise...but I think it should be altered. I think, paradoxically, we can be closer to God both when we are alone with Him and when in relationship to other people. Like so many things I've come to believe, this, too, is an area where God acts or has created something paradoxical. Fully God, fully man...in Jesus' death we find life...in the poorest family was born and raised the King of All Things...the holy God who had to protect Moses from death at the sight of God's face came and spent one-on-one time with sinners, lepers, terrorists, and even religious leaders... We could go on. Praise God that He works with us and relates to us! He gives me hope when I have none, strength when I am weak, and ability when I can't.
Posted 9/24/2009 9:48 PM by prov1seven - reply


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